It's failure as a commercial load does not reflect poorly on it's performance, as it has become increasingly popular for handgun hunters and silhouette shooters alike. Instead of repeating all the details, Ill just post the link below. You can shoot 357 Mags through it. The.357 Maximum, formally known as the.357 Remington Maximum or the.357 Max, is a super magnum handgun cartridge originally developed by Elgin Gates as the wildcat.357 SuperMag. Id tend to agree with you. $1,050.00 (Save up to 21%) Price $825.00 H012MAW Henry Arms Henry Mares Leg Lever Rifle 357 Magnum 38 Special 5 RD 12.9" $1,133.00 (Save up to 10%) Price $1024.00 H006MML Henry Arms Cimarron 1873 Short Lever Action Rifle .357 Magnum $1,498.00 (Save up to 10%) Price $1355.00 CA271 Couldnt seem to understand that I couldnt and didnt care to at this moment. Colt - Python, .357 Magnum. Ed Palumbo from Tualatin, OR on November 23, 2019: I spoke to a gunsmith about rebarreling a Ruger #3 falling block (single shot) to .357 Maximum and he was appalled, commenting "You'll never be able to resell it! 008-E503829 | MTM. There were some factory chambered in .357 Remington Maximum over 20 guage. barrel and (2) additional 12rd magazines. Rossi 92 is one of the best purchases Ive ever made. Fortunately I do have lever guns in .22, .44 and 30-30 so Im not that upset. It can be used against medium to large game, with hunters disagreeing over its efficacy for dangerous game such as bear. I really like my lever guns, also have a early JM guide gun in 45-70 and also one in 450 Marlin. Buy in stock Contender and Encore barrels for immediate shipment or have them custom build your barrel in 4-6 weeks! It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. The comparisons have all included .357 magnum pistol velocities though. Pun intended. While I do want one in .357 for ammo sharing with my handguns Id be open to one in .327 Federal as well. With straight-walled cartridges, you dont need a dedicated space. I still have a safe full of ARs, but thinking this Marlin is going to be seeing a lot more range time than they will. Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. A 180-grain version was added, but it was also a hollowpoint. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .357 Maximum .357 Maximum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Lee #1 Lyman #1 RCBS #6 Recipe Type: Pistol Bullet Weight: ALL 100 gr 110 gr 125 gr 140 gr 158 gr 165 gr 170 gr 180 gr 200 gr Powder: ALL Accurate 1680 Accurate 4100 Accurate 5744 Hodgdon CFE BLK Hodgdon H110 Hodgdon Lil'Gun rounds much more than the .22s. Who needs a semi auto rifle. Many Max shooters (myself included) find poor accuracy with magnum cases. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? Slick set up that kept a rifle close to hand and out of sight. Winchester just introduced the 350 Legend for all the people who are stuck using straight walled cartridges. It list 357 Max data for Jacketed and Cast bullets from all the major players. It downloads well, unlike H110/296. Shipping to your FFL by insured FedEx Ground will be $45. Having fired several different types and CARRIED them in the Military, I much prefer the simple and traditional bolt-actions, levers and semi-autos that American hunters have carried for generations. 1830 fps 100 yds 1427 fps 200 yds 1138 fps 158 gr. A heavily worn gun that had been drilled vertically thru the buttstock, the barrel, magazine tube and lag-bolted across beams in the ceiling of some bar in northern Arizona. Those Remlins had some serious issues, and are the least desirable models of all Marlin 94s. Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Flintlock Misc, Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Matchlock/Wheellock Misc, Century Arms International (CAI) - Rifles, Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Rifles (perc), Winchester Rifles - Modern Bolt/Auto/Single, Winchester Rifles - Pre-1899 Bolt/Single Shot, Century Arms International (CAI) - Pistols, Colt Automatic Pistols (.25, .32, & .380 cal), Colt Single Action Revolvers - Modern (22 Cal. It took only a few rounds to actually erode (read cut) that section. At least you should expect the kind of quality youd get from a Remington bolt gun in the price range. Everyone asks if they can shoot MAGnums in the .357 MAXimum chamber; however, with the .3" long jump before the bullet even gets to the throat, you can't expect great accuracy. The other was H-110 powder which never achieved what I thought was accurate. by bgmkithaca Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:55 am, Post The three taped holes were 20.0 gr. Since that time, many believe that the issues stem from using light-loads consisting of 110 and 125 grain (gr.) Max. ), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (flint), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (perc), United States Patent Firearms Revolvers/Pistols, Century Arms International (CAI) - Shotguns. But its the old Supply and demand scenario. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Thompson center contender barrel, 357 max, 21" blued at the best online prices at eBay! No box or papers. They were hell bent on making me reload. Detachable rotary magazine features a unique rotor to separate cartridges and . Maximum average pressure (MAP) was set at 40,000 psi/48,000 CUP, substantially higher than the .357 Magnum. Mine berms, or scrounge for scrap lead. The .357 Magnum is considerably more powerful than its parent round the .38 Special. has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. In addition to the 180-grain bullet, Speer makes a 220-grain FN that will exceed 1,500 fps in a 14-inch Contender, and Hornady and Sierra both make 200-grain RN versions that should reach 1,600 to 1,650 fps. .357 Rem. Or if you are willing to pay $1500-1,750 you get a Mikoru Japan made Winchester 92 Takedown rifle. Comes with original Colt wood and rubber grips Sig Sauer P2340 .357 caliber with a 4in. And you get a couple more rounds in the tube. The little bastards will come and cuss you and drop nuts on you. Yes, they can, of course, be fired farther, but the design, mass and speed of the bullets are what really determine effective range. Looking for 357 mg 200 gr hard cast data - Alaska Outdoors Forums Not all of us have the ability for various reasons to reload. This fire also flowed upwards in such a way that it encountered the inside edge of the revolver topstrap. Henry is close with SPX but went plastic stock.DOH! I believe Ive had more fun with my .357 Maximum barrel than any other in my T/C stable with the possible exception of the .22 Hornet barrel. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Trust me. . They tried fixing it with a (I think it was either titanium or stainless steel insert) but the Jeanie was already out of the bottle and they were dropped. A couple of people got that familiar look in their eyes and started plotting their next purchase right there. The .450 will really put a wallop on your shoulder. . The hammer and bolt still make contact with each other on the side of the hammer, not just where the bolt cocks the hammer. .357 MAGnum throated long to accept .357 MAXimum published loads in MAGnum brass, (Ask about other options such as .35 Remington, .358/.356 Winchester.). Midsouth Shooters can supply you with your pistol and rifle ammunition, as well as all of your shooting and reloading supplies. Obviously, a longer cartridge had increased powder capacity and greater velocity potential. Metallic silhouette shooters found it both accurate and very good at taking steel plates off a rail. There are even night sights available from aftermarket suppliers. by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:54 pm, Post COLUMN: Time to chamber more rifles in .357 Maximum The .357 Maximum can be a potentially great cast bullet cartridge. It should be noted the original loadings of the 357 mag were to 45,000 psi, but when the smaller framed 357's came on the market the pressure of the loads was reduced to 35,000 psi. new No sales CA - NY - know your state laws! I'd hoped the cartridge would be well received by the market, that Marlin would act on chambering their Model 1894 lever action for the .357 Max, but few seemed to appreciate what the cartridge had to offer. Note the 1/4" groups with .358" bullets in their .358" cylindrical throat and only slightly larger groups with .357" bullets, Copyright 2023 .357 Remington Maximum Done Right by Mike Bellm, Mr. Max USA, New Custom Made Barrels by Match Grade Machine. In addition to the rapid erosion of the barrel face adjacent to the cylinder, the topstrap was being grooved by a combination of hot gas and partially burned propellant granules. 350 legend Oklahoma Shooters from www.okshooters.com. If you hand-load long bullets that seat deeply in the case, you may need a longer expander plug to avoid crumpling the case. Both cartridges can be practical for hunting midsized, and some large game. The chrony doesnt lie: .357 levers punch well above their weight: rifle velocities, rifle bullets for the .35 Rem. Great rifle and never have had an issue, shooting with 8 grains of unique with 225 grn semi wadcutters. ALL factory handgun ammo is impossible to obtain now in the Covid 19 and Defund the Police world we live in now. Other brands and types of lead core handgun bullets tend to blow up and not penetrate into vital organs when driven at rifle velocities close in. Features Sig Hard casing (2) Additonal 12 Round mag European American Armory, Windicator, Medium Frame, 357 Magnum, 4" Barrel, Steel Frame, Nickel Finish, Rubber Grips, Fixed Sights, 6Rd. Ive chosen to go with a strategy that includes both firearms that the SASS folks find fascinating and others that cause the antis to have bowel control problems you can cover a lot of bases for just a couple thousand dollars. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:35 pm, Post Maybe Ill be in a position to reload once I retire in 25 or so years but by then Ill probably have sold everything and moved back overseas so it wont be an issue. Nice single shot rifle. Ha! 357 Maximum, Everything You Need to Know! MGM Barrels TC - YouTube Im glad I was able to get what I needed for the time being. But muh tactical! you say? lever gun that I own and have ever shot, easy on the arms and has some versatility. And as far as lever action rifles in pistol calibersthey have never been irrelevant over their 150 year history. The Story of my life it seems. No one currently makes guns chambered in the cartridge.Looking back on the whole incident is very interesting, and there is much to be learned. Theyre quick-handling (crazy quick), theyre accurate, and theyve got the power to take down medium-sized game out to 150 yards with the right ammo and careful rangefinding. Some of the smaller single-action companies produced their version. That feature was what was holding me back from buying one. Yup. New cartridge and rifle. My one friend was shooting 158jsp out of his as they shot very well. A Dan Wesson revolver in that caliber based on the heavy duty Dan Wesson 44 Mag frame was offered. This is a high-class place so act respectable. maximum | Thompson Center Barrel At least it can use use the same bullets as my Smiths. It could even work for breech-seating. Even my Walmart has 30-30 ammo now. I watched him shoot an elk at about 70 yards once behind the shoulder and one through and had complete penetration on both, elk went 20 yards. Significantly disappointed and I reopened another repair ticket. Wow, so many new posts on the 357 Mag rifles. .357 Maximum is a perfect starter gun for kids to learn and grow on. Bagged in plastic, clean, and well oiled. Until February of 2020 a person could get a lot of different cheap ( relatively) 38 Special and 357 target ammo. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. It is a tough call since their chamber work and mine are so, so close to the same. (Winchester 94) and .22lr (Marlin 39A x2) with various accompanying sidearms. Yes, tactical Virginia, you can put a red dot on a lever gun. Since the rules have changed again effective this fall I have came up with another case based on the 444 marlin necked to .375 at 1.8 inches long. The MAGnum case with the bullet seated out holds exactly the same charge weights as factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! The resulting airspace does no good. No one else offers the wide range of options, steel picatinny rails, and barrel fluting that MGM does. .357 Remington Maximum beats many of the traditional factory loaded "deer cartridges" such as .30/30 Winchester and .35 Remington. I settled on Accurate 1680 propellant. The .357 Magnum round is pushed to greater ballistic performance (add about another 600 fps and another 500 ft-lbs of energy, give or take) as well as a wealth of ammunition choices. Item Number: 534259137. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-henry-big-boy-44-magnum/. Upon opening the box the gun was dirty and needed to be cleaned/oiled, not sure if the dust was from the shipping cardboard or lack of care in the shop before packing. Savage made a small number of their model 24 Over/Under combination rifles with a .357 Rem. Joe Grine and I spent a day testing it agains the venerable .30-30, and the results astounded us. Id bet the old timers that rode the wild and woolly west would have liked the magnum in a rifle. I have a 94 Trapper in 357 Magnum that I rechambered to 357 Maximum. 1,535 max: Lil'Gun: 17.0 gr. Nobody shoots the .357 Max because no manufacturer chambers their firearms for it these days!" I haven't dismissed the idea but I'll research the best rate-of-twist for it. Yes, it was an easy one to fill the bill with. Cartridge is a mite better now than 3 years ago, IMO. Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. Description. My Name. I Wont be waiting on you to be relevantjust sayin. Hornady XTP 158 gr. Based on the serial number it looked like it was made this year. Todays edition also features a falling block safety, so it can be carried loaded. Supply and demand. Save your brass and reload. I have been thinking of adding a Henry Big Boy X in .357 to go along with my other lever guns, but Ive heard that .357 can be inconsistent regarding accuracy out of a carbine. One of the best, if not, the best little caliber you would ever want ! I sure like my Marlin 94c..I had my Smith do an action and trigger job on it. The rifle shot better after reaming that it did before. by bgmkithaca Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:18 pm, Post Here in Ohio legal deer hunting rifle cartridges are straightwall cases from .357 to .50. .357 Maximum loaded with Our 200g Hollow Point gas checked to produce zero leading even at full speed. The first loads I worked up were with Speers 0.358-inch 180-grain FNSP intended for the .35 Remington. The powerful Ruger 77/357 is chambered in .357 Mag. 357 Maximum - Reed's Ammunition & Research, LLC The Big Boy Steel Carbine is competing for the top of my wish list I really like the color case hardened version. Not question those who do or did so, cause theres something special about shooting a lever action. My findings are three of us used 357 mag out of 2 Rossi lever at 20 inch and one Marlin with 16.25 to hunt blacktails and elk. The .357 Maximum was developed in the early 80's by Ruger and Remington Arms as a silhouette cartridge for the Blackhawk revolver. If I absolutely had to ditch all my guns and go with a single handgun + single rifle, this would be my choice. It is the .357 Remington Maximum. This is not an issue for single-shot firearms, and the long bullet cleared the rifling in the pressure barrel and our T/C barrels. To reload the .357, a Lee Loader is all you need, plus a supply of primers, a pound of powder and bullets. |regenC|MC Set || Li Mc HIT || || LP Mc HIT ||, Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Flintlock Misc, Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Matchlock/Wheellock Misc, Century Arms International (CAI) - Rifles, Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Rifles (perc), Winchester Rifles - Modern Bolt/Auto/Single, Winchester Rifles - Pre-1899 Bolt/Single Shot, Century Arms International (CAI) - Pistols, Colt Automatic Pistols (.25, .32, & .380 cal), Colt Single Action Revolvers - Modern (22 Cal. Try some Blue Dot in your .357 Mag, chronograph it and see how you like it. Common sense Gun Safety . Funny, but what popped into my head was Arkansas and Alaska arent benighted states. In the many years since, however, Ive shot pretty much every common handgun caliber and own a dozen or so of them and, still, something about that .357 just works the best. I have not seen the .357 atomic but know of the .375 atomic-it is a i.4 in. Great guns..would love to have a Winchester big loop trapper in 357..but i wish the Winchester came with sling studs like the Marlin. Turns out that my relatively new Ford pickup has plenty of room for a lever gun too. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:01 pm, Post This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Shop 357 Magnum ammo online for hunting, self defense, and target practice. . I have shot a buddys 357, think it was Italian, a couple times as he is into Cowboy Action..not my thing but fun to watch! Extremely fun to shoot makes them relevant. Lever action rifles are fun. It was introduced in 1935, and its use has since become widespread. Mark Penrod is one. Barrel has only been to the range for load development. Looking for 170-190gr bullet loads and a plinking load for a hard cast GC/cheep jacketed bullet. MSRP is $1,223, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, itll command less of a premium in-store. Zombie apocalypse? What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? Loading your own was a matter of economic necessity for most of us, and wildcatting was very common. The .357 Maximum went away. Best .357 Magnum Lever-Action Rifles. Go to the Contact page for shipping information: For Remington .357 Maximum brass and Thompson Center "G2" Contender .357 Magnum 12" barrels rechambered to .357 Rem. Look around on the internet. No more squirrel. With todays rail-mounted optics, that makes the 1894 CSBL tactical and practical, with the addition of an XS Sights Lever Rail and sight set. The evidently know a 22 rifle or shotgun by sight. Good time to start getting ready for the next ammo drought. I really want to get one in .357 mag. 357 Magnum Rifles | Sportsman's Warehouse by AJMD429 Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:32 pm, Post I really do want a .357 levergunbut Im perfectly confident in my .30-30. But it was attached to the saddle..which was (hopefully) attached to the horse. I bought a used Marlin 94c 357 in June, 2020 for $600, in 98% condition. Show Only Guns The .357 Magnum cartridge is based upon Smith & Wesson's earlier .38 Special cartridge. Please enjoy those guns with your family on my behalf, as I will not be purchasing **anything** in CA in my continuing quest to remain off the CADOJs books. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:56 pm, Post With 125 gr. Either will give hunting accuracy better than a big percentage of "varmint rifles! Youll see how relevant lever guns are next time the bolsheviks are in the white house. Its a copy of the Winchester 1892 made by Miroku for Browning. Rechamber to .350 Legend from .357 Magnum or .357 Maximum: Add $25 to mill/convert the extractor for the rebated rimless .350 Legendcase rim. 357 Remington Maximum Load Data - Nosler I shoot 38 short. Firearms returned for any reason other than damage or undisclosed conditions will be subject to a 10% restocking fee. 350 Legend vs .357 Magnum, which is more powerful? - Gun Tradition Same 357 MAXIMUM 180 gr load in an 18" rifle barrel has a MP= 3111 psi vel 1663 FPS 357 Mag 158 gr 13 gr Win 296 1719 FPS 14" barrel MP= 2586 Should be Ev0-9 safe especially with a Triad Mount. Lite recoil and is deadly. .44-40. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. You have my (good natured) envy. I much prefer .30 caliber bullets in any of those platforms. Please try a new zip code and search again. Risking twice that? by stretch Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:47 pm, Post (Photo: Winchester) Item Number: 534196137. It was way past the time Henry made a side loading gate Lever action rifle. My current 357 carbine is a Marlin 94 from 1998. The youngsters love shooting it with .38 spl. Id stay away from used Marlins made anywhere from 2005-2015 though. Sellier, who established the company in Prague in 1825 and began manufacturing percussion caps for use in muskets and rifles. 357 maximum - Paco Kelly's Leverguns.com As far as commiespretty sure it would get the job done. Regardless of the manufacturer, most reloading books recommend you do not load bullets lighter than 158 grains. His just naturally pointed well, I didnt have to work at all. It didn't quite make it, but still knocked the steel rams down. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. The hammer was replaced and some work was done to help the feeding and cycling but I am still having a bolt issue. Auction (145) It came back looking like new. : .357" (except where otherwise specified in remarks). Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. This round is about the same thing as a 357 Max except for bore diameter. Why Marlin didnt make a 336 in .357 I will never understand. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. They usually hide it by using a 24" barreled rifle. The cartridge made its debut in 1983 in the Ruger New Model Blackhawk single-action revolver. Max., Those who own firearms in this chambering load their own custom ammunition. Max. In bolt action or semi auto, I would choose the 350. So when they become available, people on this blog will be talking about them. I can probably name a couple dozen powders that will work in the .357. Im still waiting for someone to make a 357 in. Its nice to check back in after so many years and see that my old photos and articles are still relevant. I wrote the original TTAG book on pistol-caliber levers back in the day, and Id like to add a few points to those made in this article. get the Lee hand press. You have entered an incorrect email address! Give me a blued steel finish with walnut, no plastics or laminates please!!! That never happened with Ruger. Latest: Arima-bob A moment ago Southern California Fishing Reports B What boat less than 30ft can take a 3' @ 6-7 head sea Latest: Bottom Dragger 1 minute ago Boating Discussion Stripping old rods Latest: nefarious235 2 minutes ago Fishing Rod Building Forum Classified Ad (1000+), Search Full Text of Listings Poppycock; the .357 Magnum is one of the best rounds for personal defense out there. The 125-grain loads have not quite as much muzzle energy as NATO's standard infantry rifle round, the 5.56x45mm. The world's most powerful firearm database. The Casull is way shorter than the Max and ~the same OAL as the 360 DW. by Hobie Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:59 am, Post bullets have proven to be the best of the revolver type bullets for all applications.. handgun and rifle. rounds and it goes on just about every trip to the range. The "little but mighty" .357 " Maxie" ! Model 1873 and cowboyskinda synonymous. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Model 29 and Marlin stainless 1894 in 44. In those area, they cant legally own an AR, AK, etc. The tactikewl timmys that see all rifles as ARs are missing the point. Not quite as fast but a staple item is 296/110 with 23 gr. 05-25-2020 . THROATS SHORTER THAN MINE WILL INCREASE PRESSURES. The .357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. We show you how. Every time TTAG runs a lever gun article I want one. IMR 4227 for .357 Magnum | The Firearms Forum She relegates me to my Win 94 trapper in 45 Long ColtI guess I get by. I cant go the range without people coming over to try it out. I still have a stash of Hornady 180 grain SSP's for it. Lever actions are a hoot to shoot. (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders.) I was shocked when I found out. The 1873 Deluxe Sporting is that classic rifle, dressed to the nines with a color-case hardened finish and checkered pistol grip. Dont believe me?? The .357 Maximum was an effort to give you .357 Magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. Is taught at the Range! 357 maximum load data! - ACCURATE RELOADING I wish I had known Hornady was going to discontinue them, I would have stocked up on them.

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